Westside
7:28 Thu Feb 4
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I think no fans have helped us. The fans getting nervous, twitchy, frustrated, hasn't been felt or heard by the players.
The players can leave it late to win/equalise, without the fans getting on their backs. We are joint top of the goals scored in the last 10 minutes of a match (although we have played more matches than some). And joint 4th in points gained from losing positions.
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Side of Ham
7:14 Thu Feb 4
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goose 6:34 Thu Feb 4
THEY wasn't my mates goose they just sat in the row behind where me and my mates were. why they bothered to get a ST was something only they could explain....
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Mace66
6:41 Thu Feb 4
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As an example
33 year old Mark Noble ( WITH fans )
25 year old Tomas Soucek ( WITHOUT fans )
hmmm, let me think, why are we doing better ....
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Mace66
6:38 Thu Feb 4
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I think no fans has sod all to do with it and you have to look for other clues like, for example, better players, team spirit etc etc
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goose
6:34 Thu Feb 4
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i get that football is a release for some, but it goes both ways - positive and negative. and even if your mate hated Mullins there are still 10 other players he is getting behind.
i cant imagine anyone moaning when we are beating spurs at home.
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Vexed
6:34 Thu Feb 4
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It's nothing to do with the lack of fans. It's a weird COVID ravaged season, another one that will be forever remembered with a * next to the 'winner'.
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Side of Ham
6:29 Thu Feb 4
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goose, whenever I've gone (except in any sort of corporate) be it standing or sitting, had nutcases just berating the team for the full game, one of my ST involved sitting in front of a group who walked back down to the bar if Mullins was playing which was a lot as they would just cane him and it was the same with Cole for them.
Some turn up week in week out to purely vent is my experience.
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Lily Hammer
6:24 Thu Feb 4
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goose
Obviously the promotion and high finish seasons were the precious few where all the fans bit their lips and shouted nothing but encouragement and loving soothing platitudes to the players.
We need to kum bye yah again.
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Moncurs Putting Iron
6:24 Thu Feb 4
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I wont lie I thought this was going to be about swinging.
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Chigwell
6:24 Thu Feb 4
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Having no fans has helped Moyes, in his first full season at West Ham, to build a team and team spirit without pressure from the crowd for instant results.
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goose
6:18 Thu Feb 4
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i dont know anyone who pays money to go to west ham just so they can slag off the team.
we have one of, if not the, most loyal fan base around who turn up in huge numbers home & away despite some of the rubbish served up over the years.
and now we're blaming the fans for poor home form?
i'm sure the promotion seasons and top half finishes must have been a fluke with fans in the ground?
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Lily Hammer
6:11 Thu Feb 4
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There’s so often been a lot to bitch and moan about these last few years, and plenty of times before that, over the last half century. We’ve always abused players not putting a shift in, or who are consistently and continuously shit, but even the shit ones usually got some support if we thought they were trying their best.
If players are too thin skinned to take criticism where it’s due, they’ve no business being professional footballers, and certainly not West Ham players.
Our current team, the way they are playing, would be getting world class support if we were in there now.
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Come On You Irons
5:50 Thu Feb 4
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So many of our so called supporters merely go over to the stadium to bitch, moan and abuse the players. Of course that has a negative effect on the players. They have played with so much more freedom since lockdown and with no supporters present at games.
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Lily Hammer
5:46 Thu Feb 4
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If having no fans is why we’ve been doing so well, why did we do so shit vs Liverpool?
Alvin Martin is one example of a player who was one of our best, and played in some of our best ever seasons. He fondly remembers the West Ham fans back in the good old days, how they would get right behind you when you’re putting the effort in, and how they would give you a really hard time if you weren’t.
Our form is down to the manager and his staff and his new additions to the squad, and how all of them have got a tune out of a lot of the players that were already here.
The way we play now would have our fans off their seats and being the 12th man we’ve always been, when the players represent our emotions for the crossed hammers.
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GreenStreetPlayer
5:07 Thu Feb 4
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I just think we have made some very good signings and they are all grafters with the right attitude.
Could be other teams are missing and need their fans more than our team.
Liverpool aside, our team don’t need no uplift from the fans, they are playing for themselves and the manager.
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theaxeman
4:42 Thu Feb 4
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Its 52% percy about 10% up
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Percy Dalton
4:33 Thu Feb 4
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I'd like to see the stats of Premier league away wins against home wins this season.
Every match in the Premier league last night was an away win
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dealcanvey
4:30 Thu Feb 4
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Have said this for a while.
Our fan base can be one of the worst for getting toxic very quick.
One of the reasons I jacked the ST in when we moved to the cesspit. Seemed to be no matter who we played if we went 1-0 down the boo boys would be out in force. Alot of booing went on at UP but it seemed to have gotten worse. People venting their frustration at the owners and the stadium towards the players.
Never known what it has gained apart from making the player confidence dip even more and the chance of a win even less likely
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Johnson
4:22 Thu Feb 4
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There could be something behind the ability to play under pressure - just general being watched and shouted at type pressure - that is not there at the moment meaning players that perform well in training but crumble in front of a crowd or play well in lower attended games but go quiet on the big games are not getting impacted as much.
A bit of a levelling of the pressure which is allowing players to be more comfortable.
I don't think it's a home or away thing to be honest.
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Side of Ham
4:18 Thu Feb 4
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I do think the players have been able to bond better in their bubble and without very little direct vocal criticism on the day. It's like they are stuck together so are trying to make the best of a shit situation. I do also think some players crave the crowd presence back as it can drive them on whilst others are self motivated to want to play well regardless of who's around.
Just an opinion.....
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Manuel
4:09 Thu Feb 4
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Yes, it's always been us fans' fault for us always being shit. Now we know.
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